That's just justification. Are we exceptionally bad compared to the the rest? Rox!! If you are doing well financially, then by all means go for it. I would never consider moving to another country and flying the American flag on my car and draping a flag on my hood. Of course as highly educated professionals our financial decisions couldnt be altered by something like that, just like our clinical decisions are impervious to drug reps, right? Or is this just exaggeration by angry drivers. "Notice how even though 1 in 4 Glendale residents are Armenian, there isn't a separate category for them? People have turned into fried brain sheep over here when it comes to driving. The worst example of keeping-up-the-Joness since a car is always one of our most visible possessions (as counter example, what percentage of the hundreds of people you know have ever set foot in your house?, but people at work know where you park). Caravanistan is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.Made in Eurasia by Steven & Saule2011 - 2023, Do you have a request for this tour operator? Mr. Daste notes that Im spending a few grand extra per year on vehicles which we could be putting away for retirement or otherwise, and as such were borrowing against our futures. I have borrowed from Future Me before and it turned out that Future Me didn't appreciate it. It just so happens I know this couple personally. Maybe he is referring to the stress of not having a warranty to pay for repairs. The statement that most Armenians drive nice cars is not a stereotype, rather a statistical observation. I wanted a nice comfortable ride. By comparison, many residents and attending physicians only have one car and they need it to run reliably every day. A few hundred dollars a month matters to me especially with the costs of young kids. cars being driven by Armenian teens. Drive a beater get rich, oh boy where to start with the Bostonian! In response to the luxury debate I just wanted to share the following: Projecting success is quite important for the role as theyre constantly meeting new people. In the same way that people dress for the job, cars are The culture is very strong and full of correct paths that it will be difficult for a different race to creat a family with an Armenian. Routine maintenance, never a breakdown. Beyond that, cars dont necessarily mean a realtor is successful or good at their job. And finally the family and professional expense of a breakdown can be extensive. I bought a $20 bluetooth speaker for my 2005. Neither was a CPO but were both under warranty at time of purchase. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. While this may be true, its not absolute. I might very well be mistaken), Mexicans of a lower socioeconomic status really dont give a fuck about tomorrow. Also, the gas mileage sucks, so that adds to the cost. Insurance is mandatory in Armenia since April 2018.The minimum insurance period is 10 days, but you can get insurance for longer periods as well. And a beater doesnt need to be a 20 year old, $1,000 car. We get married and pay off vette and student loans. chillax.seriously. I guess I'll start with a few disclosures. Kevin W. says:Melt or get out of the pot. t is crowded Would love wifi in t. I dunno. Again, doubt theres some amazing difference between a 2008 and 2016. For realtors, their reasons for driving nice cars include: 1. What model and year? Its like a liver though. Was it ever something where I would have considered any of them unreliable? The newest cars have the latest safety features from advanced airbags to superior crumple zones, and even features like cross traffic alert, lane keep assist and collision mitigation to keep you from having the accident in the first place. The problem is Lake Powell is 285 miles away and the Tesla X range while towing a boat is 100 miles. The number of Armenian have decreased SO much with force that Armenians have to avoid interracial marriage for decades to save the old race that survived for centuries. It has anti-lock brakes, a dozen airbags, trailer sway control, blind spot indicators, back-up camera, a sonar, and even a really annoying beep when we don't put our seat belts on. The night shifts and general lack of flexibility are probably the most physician-specific issues. I'm an Armenian guy and I dont give a mass-a-two-shits what race someone dates. No car ownership is definitely the utopian/dystopian future. Instead I've noticed it with other forms of enjoying life. For realtors, their reasons for driving nice cars include: In the same way that people dress for the job, cars are fundamental to a realtors lifestyle. If you can catch one before the initial 36/48 month warranty expires, you can rest pretty easy knowing that youre not inheriting the first owners problems too, and without having to deal with 3rd party warranties. I put in a new stereo myself to do hands-free calling and navigation. Just kidding. But the reality is that old cars break down and arent designed to last forever, and despite some peoples luck, most old car drivers will be faced with unforeseen breakdowns and annoyances. Alternator, battery, all 4 tires because the alignment went out on a road trip, lthe whole computer had to be replaced after it failed and the car became nonfunctional. Hrag. what breakfast burritos are better than Corner Cottage?I need something for Sundays when they're closed and Saturdays after 11. lol. This thread is so typical in regards to generalizing.Stop it. Lots of fun at the time, but It turns out they actually wanted the car back in drivable condition which cost another couple thousand at lease end. The Wealth Equation: Are You a Numerator or a Denominator? Customize your tour, You can buy it at the border, but it is cheaper to buy it online via, Please let us know how it worked out for you. That car is a little more niche and as suck will be much more expensive to fix/maintain that a honda accord etc. --------------------------It's not a matter of assimilating. 4% of $50K is $2K a year, and less in future years. Even that 2005 Sequoia would make Mr. Money Mustache cry, since a 2005 Camry would save a ton of money on purchase price and running costs. Anyone else have a good solution to the issues with the rare, non-frequent night shifts (when your body is not accustomed to working nights)? At least both of us abandon the concept of wrenching to save money. Reasons Realtors Drive Nice Cars. Due to extreme resiliency and a tendency to stick together and help one another out, Armenians have not diminished. All questions and reports about driving in Armenia are welcome at our driving in Armenia forum thread. (it is my boat on the lake). After that, I recommend you enjoy the good life however you want to define that. You asked him to elaborate on why the culture might cease to exist, and he did. The cheapest reports come out on 3000-4000 dram for 2 weeks. Thats actually really impressive to get your transportation costs that low. Heck, you could get twice the mileage out of a Prius instead of your Fit but apparently hate the planet too much. You'll rarely ever meet an Armenian with a 401k plan, or life insurance, or a savings plan, or a college fund. You can get a one-year TIP (temporary import permit) at the border. Someone trying to get a million-dollar house may feel more comfortable discussing the deal with someone driving a Lamborghini or Lexus. BTW, I drive 30 minutes to work everyday because I moved so that my children had better school opportunities. I see people as people I am of Italian and Irish decent my family has always taught me we are the same. This beater driver is unphased by a check engine light or an SRS warning flashing on the dashboard, so long as the car runs and drives. Ten years old and youre probably OK, depending on the specific make and model. I bet Future You doesn't appreciate you spending his money either. Well actually, in essence, yes it is. Three posts already and now this one! For example, have you noticed that a majority of the people at Magic Mountain, Disneyland, Raging Waters, etc., are mexican families? born in Iran! Armenians are hard working and family oriented people. Do my own wrenching? Why's everybody cockblock'n whitey?He's just try'n to get a nut like every other squirrel out there.Ive seen and heard guys of every race do this with outsiders. Terrible at choice making and following basic rules and common sense while driving, most definitely. Works fine. I hope I'm not stepping on any toes when I say this. Don't justify what is, in essence, a splurge as a smart financial move. We have a generation of immigrants who want to come here to reap the benefits that generations of Americans have died for but they don't want to assimilate. Buying a car for reduced stress is just justification. I decided to take the insurance money and 3K cash and buy a 2009 Volvo with 27K miles on it instead of a 2015 Subaru Forester for 0% financing (payment wouldve been about $200/month) or an hybrid-electric Ford Fusion. In fact the funny thing is the cars weve had the most issues with were my wifes newer and more reliable cars. This makes it easier for the client and realtor to relate on a more personal level. Hahaha you're a good sport about it. Lessons Driving an $800 Car Can Teach Your Kid, Moving The Goalposts - Attack of the Lifestyle Creep, How Much Car Can You Afford? She's not doing that. Bro if more armenians lived in actual LA there would be no traffic. Pop a special hole in the back of the license plate, and though it will trigger the theft alarm you can then push buttons in the trunk to open the doors. But most people are kidding themselves into thinking theyre wealthy or just buying an emblem to convince others they are. The Volvo and pickup have had issues, but they never quite died on either of us. I should have made the topic " who believes you should stick to your own ethnicity and why". Mot "non//gargantuan" C. says:as stated before comrades, who cares, live your life the way you want to. At 12 shifts/mo and $2.25/ride with an occasional uber when its late I guarantee you my personal transportation costs are <$1000k year and it never breaks down or needs repair. Im not buying a tank just to protect my family. You do not need an international drivers permit. Take my free wholesome award, you made a amazing joke. Mot "non//gargantuan" C. says: who cares? Budgeting a little extra for quality transportation goes hand in hand with the mentality of a financially savvy physician who goes to great lengths to reduce risk by using proven methods and quality equipment for treatments, obtaining adequate malpractice and liability insurance and using various financial vehicles to insure his or her income and life. Where to start? It's because they've been here longer and have had more time to adapt, assimilate and evolve. . total of $1000 in interest over the life of the loan. That's called a splurge- when you buy something you can afford because it will make you happier. Traded in? I (and the rest of my family) have successfully managed to do both. Most times, realtors lease the car. I grew up in NYC where I had friends of every ethnic background. None of us get out alive. There are way more Lexus/MBs/BMWs driving around town than there are wealthy people. I think the best way for me to reduce my auto-related stress is to avoid having an auto note personally. I agree an hour commute after a night shift is too far. BUT. lol My bf is Iranian Armenian! I remember back in the day I heard him speak; he's amazing.. Cyn I don't think KC's Armenian lol he's a liar.btw, my mom was born in Iran. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 4. "-Your man is Iranian from Armenia? And more importantly, missing a childs baseball game or piano recital is something that a doctor will never get back. There's only one who has my heart and he knows who he is, The best response to the subject - George Carlinyoutube.com/watch?v=xDgm, Armenians women, dont want to be with armenians guys, because they threat them like shit!, they see the womens lower than them, dont know how to respect women, even with their own mothers.!!!! The target market also matters. Armenians are definitely the WORST drivers in LA its not even close. Doug, that makes me feel bettermisery loves company. Although its not completely accurate, there are some elements of truth to this belief. . I do wonder though about interest rates. Brake light wiring issue. It will be a great deal for someone. I think this strikes a balance between reliability and frugality that Im comfortable with. Rafik. Kinda noticed by your name =]Rox Thats cool! According to him theyre very reliable, not expensive to maintain, yadda yadda yadda. Two realtors in one city could have different target markets and require different cars. The same can be said for a lot of races and females being upset about the same thing. I havent owned a car since 2008, so I may not have any authority to say anything here, but you can bet that when we do own cars in the future they will be used fuel-efficient machines. Armenian weddings rule. I just had a few questions. @ Barry.. lol =] I guess that could be true @Fern.. no I havent. This makes more sense commercially for agents who like to drive the latest. Finding yourself stuck in the parking garage downtown at 2:00am is problematic at best. The second, third, and fourth 50k miles are usually the best deal IMO. Eventually gave it to my daughter.she totaled it out a couple years ago.walked away with a couple bruises.so happy to get an insurance check that was much higher than I could have sold the POS for. Maybe you make a million a year I dont know, but I know the jobs I looked at in Boston are 1/3 of what Im making in the mid west, and that extra buys a lot of vacations to cities. So anytime you see someone driving normal, most likely Armenian. I can only think of one place in my state where that could work, and it would severely restrict recreational opportunities. In my case, I could have paid cash, but I wanted to hold onto my cash. As a reason to get a newer car, its pretty dumb, but better than any of the other posited reasons above. Thanks for the insight. Great cars dont necessarily mean the person is the best for the job. The very frugal car buyer can keep a used car going seemingly forever with supposedly little to no work. All young, head shaved, sweat suit with a leather jacket. Breakdowns are actually happening more than ever. But just not an option for fly-over states. Absolutely. Go to an Armenian wedding and check out the cars in the valet. Getting a car is a major expense which means its important to make the right choice. A new study by the American Automobile Association found that technologyincluding maintenance reminders and other safety alertshasnt reduced the number of drivers stranded on the roadside. Its a total luxury for me. Still anecdote? While driving nice cars will keep a middle class family from ever becoming wealthy, a high income professional family, especially one with two working high-income professionals can certainly drive whatever they want and still eventually become financially independent. Just for safetys sake I believe its easily worth a premium of a few hundred dollars a month (particularly considering the cost of things like disability insurance), and she and I get to enjoy nicer vehicles in the process. One couple reported paying some 100 euro of different taxes at the border. Helps the economy. Local player Caravan also has the option to pick up at Gyumri airport. Yeah, but if I was a high income professional a cool car would be my weakness. In most cases, realtors that drive luxury cars lease them. Agree and have faith, but we need to put resources towards research and not these mindless for political appeal things weve been doing. The thought of even having to walk 10 minutes from my car to the hospital is laughable, let alone paying 5.50 a day pre tax or not that is crazy. I'm yet to find one prettier than me, KC. we just laugh. I work with a 41 year old Armenian guy, he still lives at home with his parents and won't move out until he gets married. This is definitely true. The reason behind my chuckling is because of the question, asking if Of course, not all agents drive luxury cars. Theres a common perception that realtors drive luxury cars and the latest models. For more details, see our guide to Armenian border crossings. Public transport: ~$84.50 (without work subsidy) monthly bus + T link pass, Uber pool: ~$120: $3 per leg x 2 legs per day- to and from work x 20 days of work (M-F) No matter your specialty youll be doing better for sure. ---who cares? Bought my first brand new car right out of med school drove it for 14 years. I did have a brother that loved his WRX, but once again is was always needing something. LIke I said to KC in response to his ex who had a 401k, etc they've been in America longer and are more evolved. [Editor's Note: What a year it has been for the discussion of automobile purchases on this site! Its also important to consider the fuel economy of a car. Hey Jeanny, here's a language you should learn to speak English. Of course there are exceptions to this but most people stay with their own people and culture so what's the benefit? That said, I think it isimportant to avoid justifying bad financial behavior. please stop being culturally relevant to what your life has offered you. It depends on the individuals personal choices and life! Auto accidents are among the leading causes of accidental death and injury in the United States. The resale value of used cars is also proportionally much higher since someone else has already paid the massive depreciation that comes with driving a new car off the dealer lot. Like any electric car, its fine for commuting but lousy for road trips. Prices tend to go way up for foreigners: anywhere from 10 000 to 27 000 dram for 2 weeks. Before you know it, youre justifying 3 michelin star restaurants every night. If your husband hadnt bought a cheap Chevy that never would have happened. Total expected cost for above lineup = ~$250-$300K depending on age and specifics. I had a stick and so couldnt trade to drive my wifes 2003 Honda Pilot when I needed a bigger rig. That's it. # 1 There is a big difference between buying a fancy new Sequoia with cash when you are a multimillionaire and buying a brand new car on credit as a resident because I just have to be able to get to the hospital and a 10 year old car is just too unreliable.. For more details, see our guide to Armenian border crossings. I know, no every body is like that, but mostly//, By the way, check this..Like I said, no every body is like that.youtu.be/rTmL4goF4nA, "Before we work on artificial intelligence, why don't we do something about natural stupidity" S.P. For realtors, its this balance they mostly strive to attain when getting a car. There is something to be said about the opportunity cost involved with taking the car in/tow, getting a shuttle, and picking it up. Yes, there are people who--and vehicles that--will do this for you, but they will cost you a pretty penny. I really didnt want a loan, and I love driving the car because it feels luxurious, but a new car might have made more sense. . No. Yet I see benz after benzhmmm *Scratches head*. There are definitely other ways, can get a portable wifi device pretty cheap as well. Im all for personal decisions and choosing what you want but if youre on white coat investor. To you guys, it sounds like something silly. Again Ill point to the professionals fascination with products like life and disability insurance here. Life is dangerous. A luxury car in bad shape doesnt communicate successfully. Of course not. Doing all the math, Im not sure Ive come out ahead, as Ive already had to replace the tires, and I think the brakes will probably need to be replaced soon and this light comes on about the anti-skid system every 4th or 5th time I drive it, because even though it was really low mileage and well-maintained, its still an 8 year old car, and I live in a sunny climate near the ocean where things just rot. And apparently $60K is insufficient to guarantee that you can even open your door in the morning. Our most recent purchase was a brand new decked out huge land yacht known as a Toyota Sequoia. I would love to have 6 or more different cars in my garage/driveway. Oh and btw, let's not turn this into a strictly gender thing, I have seen women do the same thing. Tesla has the best marketing of their systems, but nothing more than anyone else has and at times less technologically. But I've noticed a similar trend in Mexicans but not with cars. Maybe a used Corvette next time. 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